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<p data-webtasks-id="3dc6130b-49d9-4fb4">Regarding the EC261 regulation, I know Article 7 (compensation) doesn't apply if the flight is cancelled more than two weeks in advance. However, it's always been my understanding that Article 8 (right to a <strong data-webtasks-id="aeba5a00-b345-4faf">choice</strong> between a refund and re-routing "at the earliest opportunity") and Article 9 (right to care) apply regardless, the latter provided I haven't opted for a refund.</p> |
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<p data-webtasks-id="b73f1c99-f940-42ae">However, the Irish national enforcement body just told me Article 8 and 9 don't apply either if the flight was cancelled two weeks or more in advance, and that I can only get a refund and am on my own in terms of getting home.</p> |
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<p data-webtasks-id="3bcfc7c9-fd91-4a03">Is this really the case? Some clarification would be appreciated.</p> |
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<p data-webtasks-id="b6e15558-2aef-4aa6"><strong data-webtasks-id="42b62694-32d0-4796">UPDATE</strong> Thankfully turned out only the phone representative was incompetent (which is bad enough!) The "Air Passenger Rights Manager" e-mailed me saying they'll log my case and that I should drop them a message if Ryanair rejects my claim for reimbursement for two rail tickets (I was originally going to book KLM to get home but went with Ryanair+rail)</p> |
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<span class="comment-copy" data-webtasks-id="2d340ef8-81ab-4664">The <a href="https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32004R0261" rel="nofollow noreferrer" data-webtasks-id="608440f0-1147-4cf4">plain language of Article 5</a> backs up your understanding, and the <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/legislation/c20201830.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer" data-webtasks-id="3b71cca3-9922-4b08">European Commission's interpretive guidelines</a> (from March) confirm it as well. It's possible there has been further guidance and/or rule changes since March, though.</span> |
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