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time so that's that's a good sign as well don't have to remind everybody that you know michigan went through a real serious restructuring not just during the recession but since about two thousand when the auto industry just

Time, so that's that's a good sign as well. Don't have to remind everybody that you know Michigan went through a real serious restructuring, not just during the recession but since about two thousand, when the auto industry just

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contagious and other places well it didn't seem to be at this particular site but you never know what hit you until it happens and so you know there could be some bubbles lurking anybody see the big short i just saw it last sunday ok

Contagious and other places. Well, it didn't seem to be at this particular site, but you never know what hit you until it happens, and so you know there could be some bubbles lurking. Anybody see the big short. I just saw it last Sunday. ok,

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well understood or known by others too so perhaps something's out there lurking but can't really see it at this particular time a concern also of course is the as i mentioned some of the

Well understood or known by others too. So perhaps something's out there lurking, but can't really see it at this particular time. A concern also, of course, is the, as i mentioned, some of the

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in the world but to go from ten percent down to seven point five percent they're still producing or having an increase in production each year it's almost twice what our production is in the u

In the world, but to go from ten percent down to seven point five percent, they're still producing or having an increase in production each year. It's almost twice what our production is in the? u.

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output there you go around in terms of what's happening inside of china some of the other concerns of course is europe you know europe it down twenty and twenty thirteen below zero we knew that they were skirting a recession but came back some and you know

Output. There you go around in terms of what's happening inside of China. some of the other concerns, of course, is Europe. you know, Europe it down twenty and twenty thirteen below zero. We knew that they were skirting a recession, but came back some, and You know.

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that up because you know we're spending so much time focusing on what's happened with this stock market in china where it's only two percent of the world's you know value of equity where the u s it's fifty two percent so you know my question is to

That up, because you know we're spending so much time focusing on what's happened with this stock market in China, where it's only two percent of the world's you know value of equity. where the u s it's fifty two percent. So you know. My question is to:

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and of course as we all know that stock market is very immature they're trying to develop it the chinese government is making retore changes and at the same time making mistakes and how they actually you know regulate this market

And, of course, as we all know that stock market is very immature, they're trying to develop it. The chinese government is making retore changes and, at the same time, making mistakes, and how they actually, you know- regulate this market.

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one of the big mistakes was last week when they had this trigger that is supposed to stop the market going to fall a certain amount well in twenty nine minutes it fell seven percent the market closed down before the thing even got started so you know there's a lot of

One of the big mistakes was last week when they had this trigger that is supposed to stop the market going to fall a certain amount. Well, in twenty nine minutes it fell seven percent. The market closed down before the thing even got started. So you know there's a lot of.

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two five percent ok that's a whopping i mean how many would if you had a point two five percent increase in your interest rate for your mortgage on your house how many would just say forget it i'm just not going to you know i'm going to re

Two, five percent. Ok, that's a whopping. I mean, How many would, if you had a point two, five percent increase in your interest rate for your mortgage on your house? how many would just say: forget it, i'm just not going to. You know, i'm going to re.

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is one of the concerns that you know we were still depending on this to keep our economy moving well we haven't really tried to see whether or not it can sustain itself on its own with a point two five percent increase which you can see over this whole period of

Is one of the concerns that you know. We were still depending on this to keep our economy moving well. We haven't really tried to see whether or not it can sustain itself on its own. with a point two, five percent increase which you can see over this whole period of.

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that's a whole nother story and then again we mentioned the fed funds rate they have a target of two percent inflation and this is why they haven't been very anxious to raise interest rates because

That's a whole nother story. And then again we mentioned the Fed funds rate. They have a target of two percent inflation and this is why they haven't been very anxious to raise interest rates, because

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dar which is really skyrocketed over this last few years and this is the biggest rally since about one of the middle of twenty fourteen beginning at twenty fifteen in forty years i mean this is huge and one of the reasons of

Dar, which is really skyrocketed over this last few years and this is the biggest rally since, about one of the middle of twenty fourteen beginning at twenty fifteen in forty years. I mean this is huge and one of the reasons of

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haven aspect of it as well

Haven aspect of it as well.

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four business cycles in the entire history of the united states that have lasted longer than we're in right now and that's hard to believe because we've always wondered when this expansion is going to began remember it was took such a long time to really kind of get out of

Four business cycles in the entire history of the United States that have lasted longer than we're in right now, and that's hard to believe because we've always wondered when this expansion is going to began. Remember it was took such a long time to really kind of get out of.

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hundred sixty to sixty nine you can read those numbers ninety one to two thousand and one that was the longest one ever that was the one that went throughout the you know the whole sort of tactics mansion that we experience and other things happening during that time

Hundred sixty to sixty nine- you can read those numbers- ninety one to two thousand and one that was the longest one ever. That was the one that went throughout the. You know the whole sort of tactics mansion that we experience and other things happening during that time.

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and then from that point on it was clear sailing for almost either nine years the shortest one was the one that we just came off of before this recession began and that was two thousand and one to two thousand and seven but here we are two thousand and seven to the present but

And then, from that point on, it was clear sailing for almost either nine years. The shortest one was the one that we just came off of, before this recession began, and that was two thousand and one to two thousand and seven. But here we are, two thousand and seven to the present. But

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up from the zero line there with that little you know kind of uptick there that's the point two five percent increase but you can see where the other ones are between you know four and even eight eight or so percent and you

Up from the zero line there with that little you know kind of uptick there. That's the point two: five percent increase, but you can see where the other ones are between you know, four and even eight, eight or so percent and you.

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stay at about one point four one point five percent increase in the next two years unemployment rate which is something that's very good to report is that we're right at the national

Stay at about one point four. one point five percent increase in the next two years unemployment rate, which is something that's very good to report, is that we're right at the national.

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level you know usually we're a little higher than that but now we're at five point one in the national level is five point zero so we're really very close they're coming off of a very high mark of about fifteen percent unemployment at the depths of the recession

Level. You know, usually we're a little higher than that, but now we're at five point one in the national level is five point zero, so we're really very close. They're coming off of a very high mark of about fifteen percent unemployment at the depths of the recession.

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health the area which is usually a fairly dominant one is is you know not not as large but it you know is about the same size as you can see that ball down there is the same sizes you know some of the other sectors here as well so

Health. The area which is usually a fairly dominant one is is, you know, not not as large, but it, you know, is about the same size. As you can see, that ball down there is the same sizes. You know some of the other sectors here As well, So

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this low unemployment rate said well maybe it's just people leaving or not looking for jobs but here he broke it down for you and he said if we look at twenty fifteen where we you know reduce the unemployment by the number of people unemployed by a

This low unemployment rate said, Well, maybe it's just people leaving or not looking for jobs. but here he broke it down for you and he said: If we look at twenty fifteen, where we, you know, reduce the unemployment by the number of people unemployed, by a

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did we do better than what our industry did the national level and the industries that we chose were these corporate histories of food manufacturing plastics and rubber these are core in a sense because they have a what's called a

Did we do better than what our industry did? The national level and the industries that we chose were these corporate histories of food manufacturing, plastics and rubber. These are core, in a sense, because they have a what's called a.

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and rubber manufacturing perimenopause you can go down the list here fabricated metals furniture manufacturing and the question is how are they doing relative to the industry as a whole at the national level and here you see in this particular graph is that

And rubber manufacturing, perimenopause- you can go down the list here- fabricated metals, furniture manufacturing. And the question is, how are they doing relative to the industry as a whole at the national level? And here you see, in this particular graph, is that

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you're not only concentrated in these industries but they're more competitive they're able to produce and also employ at a higher level than their national counterparts and this was in food this isn't plastics primary

You're not only concentrated in these industries, but they're more competitive. They're able to produce and also employ at a higher level than their national counterparts, and this was in food. this isn't Plastics Primary.

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that you know pretty much these wages at all levels are are pretty stable even though we've seen a little bit of a decline in the offer and but you know i don't think that's you know a lot to be concerned about there's just a lot of noise up there

That you know pretty much. These wages at all levels are are pretty stable, even though we've seen a little bit of a decline in the offer. And but you know, i don't think that's, you know, a lot to be concerned about. There's just a lot of noise up there.

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and one of the reasons not to be too concerned is perhaps the fact that we have a very highly educated labor force here in ottawa county you can see here just call out itself the city where we have an associates degree we have for

And one of the reasons not to be too concerned is perhaps the fact that we have a very highly educated labor force here in Ottawa County you can see here. Just call out itself the city where we have an associates degree, we have for

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the prime age a worker of thirty five or forty four we have a higher percentage of associate degree holders then in michigan and in the united states and when we go to the bachelor's degrees or

The prime age a worker of thirty five or forty four. We have a higher percentage of associate degree holders then in Michigan and in the United states, and when we go to the bachelor's degrees or

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thirty percent of the job postings here in ottawa county are requiring a bachelor's degree and twenty one percent of our employed workers have a bachelor's degree so

Thirty percent of the job postings here in Ottawa County are requiring a bachelor's degree, and twenty one percent of our employed workers have a bachelor's degree. So

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years or so they trust you well it's a little ugly watching some of these things being made like it is watching sausages you see here but we'll go through some of his thought process ok well construction how is that

Years or so. They trust you. Well, it's a little ugly watching some of these things being made, like it is watching sausages you see here. But we'll go through some of his thought process. ok, well, construction, how is that?

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twenty fifteen down to two percent again reflecting sort of the slowdown in the state and a little bit of a forecast a slowdown in the u s we can't sustain six point two percent i'm good producing but it's still pretty strong at two point

Twenty fifteen down to Two percent, Again reflecting sort of the slowdown in the state and a little bit of a forecast: a slowdown in the U? S. we can't sustain six point two percent. I'm good producing, but it's still pretty strong at two point.

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better in ottawa county than in both of those those entities so final thoughts the u s michigan auto county seemed to be in a good position with some real strong fundamentals and it's highly unlikely that the economy

Better in Ottawa County than in both of those those entities. So final thoughts: the U S Michigan Auto County seemed to be in a good position with some real strong fundamentals, and it's highly unlikely that the economy.

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maybe we have a dramatic drop in the consumer confidence index after last week but let's hope not we still keep being obsessed with china's dach market you know such a small percentage of the world's equity and

Maybe we have a dramatic drop in the consumer confidence index after last week, but let's hope not. We still keep being obsessed with China's dach market. You know such a small percentage of the world's equity and

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time for about one more question

Time for about one more question.

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typical west michigan january morning but still please be careful and the west coast chamber invite you back next month february ninth for the next early bird breakfasts with that thank you have a great day

Typical West Michigan January morning. But still, please be careful and the West Coast Chamber invite you back next month, February ninth, for the next early bird breakfasts. With that, thank you. Have a great day.

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really parking in the traditional residential neighborhood zone district one of the observations that they brought up is that the the ordinance actually caps the number of site parking spaces per

Really parking in the traditional residential neighborhood zone district. One of the observations that they brought up is that the the ordinance actually caps the number of site parking spaces per.

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proposed only an ordinance here staff is recommending also that you increase the amount of allow hope parking for residential dwelling units and these would be for properties that have want to for

Proposed only an ordinance here. Staff is recommending also that you increase the amount of allow hope parking for residential dwelling units, and these would be for properties that have want to for.

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has and you can say your name and address and you have up to five minutes

Has and you can say your name and address and you have up to five minutes.

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there was not enough space on the parking area to park those fifteen cars so people were finding access in a grass by driving over what would be considered the lawn

There was not enough space on the parking area to park those fifteen cars, so people were finding access in a grass by driving over what would be considered the lawn.

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that has built up we think the last proposal is unfair it's an attempt to reward the landlords behavior his actions when he knew full well the limits so what is the responsibility of the

That has built up. We think the last proposal is unfair. It's an attempt to reward the landlords behavior, his actions, when he knew full well the limits. So what is the responsibility of the?

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made as well in his note in the letter i think there's a number of solutions that are on the table that are being considered here i do think it's important when we look at some of these solutions to take into consideration the size of the property and i guess what i'm saying by that is

Made as well in his note in the letter. I think there's a number of solutions that are on the table that are being considered here. I do think it's important, when we look at some of these solutions, to take into consideration the size of the property, and i guess what i'm saying by that is.

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in something that came up i thought was helpful in the study session the discussion that took place about what is the problem what are we trying to solve here why is that a problem if we have parked cars and what's going on with that some of the things i heard about the problems would be quality of life

In something that came up i thought was helpful in the study session: the discussion that took place about what is the problem, what are we trying to solve here? why is that a problem if we have parked cars and what's going on with that? Some of the things i heard about the problems would be quality of life.

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my client's property significantly larger than that if you consider that under your current zoning ordinance a forty foot wide lot would be allowed one house with six unrelated adults and would be allowed six park cars if there was an eighty foot lot

My client's property significantly larger than that, if you consider that under your current zoning ordinance a forty foot wide lot would be allowed one house with six unrelated adults and would be allowed six park cars if there was an eighty foot lot.

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you could have eighty to forty foot lots then you could have two houses twelve unrelated adults and twelve parked cars my clients lots even larger than that being ninety six feet wide but what we're saying here is well instead of

You could have eighty to forty foot lots, then you could have two houses, twelve unrelated adults and twelve parked cars- my clients lots even larger than that, being ninety six feet wide. But what we're saying here is well, instead of.

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having two houses with twelve unrelated adults we have one house with ten unrelated adults but we still only want to say six cars my question is if if you could have two houses with twelve cars and if that's the level of activity that would be acceptable

Having two houses with twelve unrelated adults. We have one house with ten unrelated adults, but we still only want to say six cars. My question is if, if you could have two houses with twelve cars and if that's the level of activity that would be acceptable.

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house instead of two sitting there and what we've been asking is be allowed to have ten so when you look at the activity issues you know how is that related to the purpose and i think if you look at what we've been talking about proposing the size of the lot doesn't matter if you have a larger lot

House instead of two sitting there, and what we've been asking is be allowed to have ten. So when you look at the activity issues, you know how is that related to the purpose? And i think, if you look at what we've been talking about proposing, the size of the lot doesn't matter if you have A larger lot.

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it doesn't make sense than to take into consideration that you're having less of an impact doing that the other thing i want to touch on just briefly and it was brought up in the letter to is is if we're concerned about the single neighborhood feel and if in one of the comments that we don't want to have parking lot

It doesn't make sense than to take into consideration that you're having less of an impact doing that. The other thing i want to touch on just briefly- and it was brought up in the letter to- is is if we're concerned about the single neighborhood feel and if in one of the comments that we don't want to have parking lot.

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that's not nice to live next to parking lots the problem is we already have that we're in the whole college neighborhood here hope college has lots interspersed throughout this neighborhood where they have a large number of cars parked in that's allowed ok but part the other and not

That's not nice to live next to parking lots. The problem is we already have that. We're in the whole college neighborhood here. Hope college has lots interspersed throughout this neighborhood where they have a large number of cars parked in. That's allowed, ok, but part the other and not

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just separate from their parking lots that they have but their housing if they have a single family house that they've converted to a cottage they're not subject to the number of unrelated adult provisions because there is own

Just separate from their parking lots that they have but their housing. If they have a single family house that they've converted to a cottage, they're not subject to the number of unrelated adult provisions because there is own.

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d they're not subject to the parking regulations so what we're saying here is these concerns are really important to us these concerns about preserving single family feel in regulating the number of unrelated adults but we're only going to apply that to the private

D, they're not subject to the parking regulations. So what we're saying here is: these concerns are really important to us, these concerns about preserving single family, feel in regulating the number of unrelated adults, but we're only going to apply that to the private.

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landlords we're not going to apply that over here to hope college i guess my question is is that if that's important why are we not applying that uniformly why are we having disparate treatment that's going on between the two i think what needs to happen is to have an ordinance that

Landlords. We're not going to apply that over here to Hope college, i guess. My question is: is that, if that's important, why are we not applying that uniformly? Why are we having disparate treatment that's going on between the two? I think what needs to happen is to have an ordinance that

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but most of their cottage is they don't have

But most of their cottage is they don't have.

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non conforming at that point in time and so basically what i view this is it's kind of a backdoor way of getting to them so we're granting them some of those non conforming rights that they had

Non conforming at that point in time, and so basically, what i view this is it's kind of a backdoor way of getting to them, so we're granting them some of those non conforming rights that they had.

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about yes when i see it as a quality of life issue in the neighborhood it is a residential neighborhood and i like the staff proposal i think it's a good compromise

About yes, when i see it as a quality of life issue in the neighborhood. It is a residential neighborhood and i like the staff proposal. I think it's a good compromise.

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to say about the noise and the cars and the traffic unfortunately that isn't something the planning commission deals with you have to deal with the police on those issues i mean i feel for you but the reality

To say about the noise and the cars and the traffic. Unfortunately that isn't something the planning Commission deals with. You have to deal with the police on those issues. i mean, i feel for you, but the reality.

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just because we're a community so i'm personally in favor of the last the last piece that the staff recommended with them at maximum of eight

Just because we're a community. So i'm personally in favor of the last, the last piece that the staff recommended with them at maximum of eight.

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allowing parking but if they meet the criteria

Allowing parking, but if they meet the criteria.

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building inspector that's where we kind of hit a roadblock and got a little frustrated he was very supportive working as on ours trying to make it happen but when the rubber meets the road we did build a little cabin out there just to test the family tests

Building inspector. That's where we kind of hit a roadblock and got a little frustrated. He was very supportive, working as on ours trying to make it happen. but When The rubber meets the road, we did build a little cabin out there just to test the family tests.

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but i call the state to get that water that he wanted and the state that i don't have anything here and kind of return phone calls and didn't want to budge on that one either

But i call the state to get that water that he wanted and the state that i don't have anything here and kind of return phone calls and didn't want to budge on that one either.

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all along maybe this is the only section that doesn't have the fence that you've seen on every highway and this is brand new fence here it's not a chain link but it is a five foot you know the bigger

All along. Maybe this is the only section that doesn't have the fence that you've seen on every highway, and this is brand new fence here. It's not a chain link but it is a five foot. You know the bigger.

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you do not need to stay

You do not need to stay.

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so the project that commission is still alive and will hopefully be coming back to them in february the reason i say hopefully is the developer may decide that they've heard enough and

So the project that commission is still alive and will hopefully be coming back to them in February. The reason i say hopefully is the developer may decide that they've heard enough and

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don't want to pursue it we sincerely hope that they stick it out because we can certainly see a way to to get this by the historic district commission but that's for the developer to decide how much they want to

Don't want to pursue it. We sincerely hope that they stick it out because we can certainly see a way to to get this by the Historic District commission, but that's for the developer to decide how much they want to.

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developer very much wants to wants to have this kind of be higher and project ok so their notion is is that they want to start off with it being an apartment complex but they're certainly looking at converting to condominiums in the future they

Developer very much wants to, wants to have this kind of be higher and project. ok, so their notion is is that they want to start off with it being an apartment complex, but they're certainly looking at converting to condominiums in the future. They

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have every intention of doing that they feel that in order to do that they need to have a garage an absolute ground each unit would have to have a minimum of one garage and then they would want to have space for one other parking spot

Have every intention of doing that. They feel that in order to do that, they need to have a garage, an absolute ground. Each unit would have to have a minimum of one garage, and then they would want to have space for one other parking spot.

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the say that you know they've got a lot of reservations about those garages they don't feel some of them don't feel that it's going to meet the secretary of interior standards for

The say that you know they've got a lot of reservations about those garages. They don't feel- some of them don't feel- that it's going to meet the Secretary of Interior standards for.

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then becomes a rental project basically from here to eternity so is that one is that really what everybody wants ok i don't think so i don't think that the neighborhood there wants that and i don't think that

Then becomes a rental project, basically from here to eternity. So is that one? Is that really what everybody wants? ok, i don't think so. I don't think that the neighborhood there wants that and i don't think that.

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and you've got to get you know reports from us every month it would be very interesting for you to all deal them to get your opinions out there you know what you see stuff but you know the developer probably

And you've got to get you know reports from us every month. It would be very interesting for you to all deal them to get your opinions out there. You know what you see stuff, but you know the developer Probably.

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very rightly made the decision that that is the historic district commission is the critical path right now they need to find bill what can or cannot be approved with that group and then from there or through

Very rightly made the decision that that is the Historic District Commission is the critical path right now. They need to find bill what can or cannot be approved with that group and then from there or through

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playing commissions city council they can get to that point so that's where we are we're going to draw on our remaining optimistic about this and i think that it would still be in awesome development for the neighborhood and not just the

Playing commissions, City council, they can get to that point. So that's where we are. we're going to draw on our remaining optimistic about this, and i think that it would still be in awesome development for the neighborhood and not just the.

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parties don't see that as a priority so we end up with large properties that are not on the tax relief work and that's an unfortunate circumstance so i mean you look at properties like six one six that

Parties don't see that as a priority. So we end up with large properties that are not on the tax relief work and that's an unfortunate circumstance. So i mean you look at properties like six, one, six that.

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what they're doing rehab projects in grand rapids could they do it they're looking at apartments in the same capacity and that's it they're not looking at condo projects anymore but

What they're doing: rehab projects in grand rapids. Could they do it? They're looking at apartments in the same capacity, and that's it. They're not looking at condo projects anymore. But

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buy these resources really doing it for three main purposes one to help fulfill the goals of our community energy plan second really is to look at our mandates that we have energy legislation

Buy these resources, really doing it for three main purposes: one, to help fulfill the goals of our community energy plan. Second really is to look at our mandates that we have energy legislation.

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meet that mandatory compliance obligation in the third reason that we do this is sometimes is to provide some price stability all these contracts because they are not supplied with a fuel source other than the renewable fuels there is a very

Meet that mandatory compliance obligation. In. The third reason that we do this is sometimes is to provide some price stability. all these contracts because they are not supplied with a fuel source other than the renewable fuels. There is a very

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the ability to create electricity which is called capacity and that has a value as well and then the third item that we're getting is what's called a renewable energy credit it's the actual attribute that says that these resources have been qualified in the state

The ability to create electricity, which is called capacity, and that has a value as well. And then the third item that we're getting is what's called a renewable energy credit. It's the actual attribute that says that these resources have been qualified in the state.

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country michigan has one but new jersey pennsylvania other states have other compliance obligations for their providers of electricity because of the location of some of our renewable assets they are

Country, Michigan, has one, but New jersey, Pennsylvania. Other states have other compliance obligations for their providers of electricity. because of the location of some of our renewable assets they are.

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resources and find the highest value marketplace because these credits are essentially bought and sold as a commodity just like any other commodity and where there is higher demand for a product in an area where there's then the

Resources and find the highest value marketplace, because these credits are essentially bought and sold as a commodity, just like any other commodity, and where there is higher demand for a product in an area where there's then the

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supply there's a price escalation there what we've been able to find in the years that we've had these are noble energy contracts is that some states have had very large credit prices compared to michigan michigan's been fairly stable

Supply. There's a price escalation there. What we've been able to find in the years that we've had- these are noble energy contracts- is that some states have had very large credit prices compared to Michigan. Michigan's been Fairly stable.

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the price in michigan is about a dollar per credit some of these other states that we've been able to participate in have had credit values up to around sixteen dollars so it's very significant difference between them so what we'll do is we will actually sell

The price in Michigan is about a dollar per credit. Some of these other states that we've been able to participate in have had credit values up to around sixteen dollars, so it's very significant difference between them. So what we'll do is we will actually sell.

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credits where the highest value is and then we'll buy in the state of michigan to make sure that we have enough credits to meet our compliance obligation essentially what we'll do is three the order which we do this is first we will meet compliance will meet make sure we're meeting that

Credits where the highest value is and then we'll buy in the state of Michigan to make sure that we have enough credits to meet our compliance obligation. Essentially, what we'll do is three the order which we do. This is: First: we will meet. Compliance will meet. Make sure we're meeting that.

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compliance obligation and then many at home might not know that we also offer a green program if you would like to have more than fifteen percent of your power to come from renewable the b p w offers an elective

Compliance obligation. And then many at home might not know that we also offer a green program. If you would like to have more than fifteen percent of your power to come from renewable, the B P W offers an elective.

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program or any of our customers businesses or residential can subscribe to additional amounts either through blocks of power that they buy or a percentage of the power that they buy to come from renewable energy as well and for those customers

Program or any of our customers, businesses or residential, can subscribe to additional amounts, either through blocks of power that they buy or a percentage of the power that they buy to come from renewable energy as well, and for those customers.

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we retire additional renewable credits beyond the state mandate on their behalf to extent that we have credits available before they expire because these credits have a life to them we will monetize whatever's left so they dart just left and those

We retire additional renewable credits beyond the state mandate on their behalf, to extent that we have credits available before they expire. because these credits have a life to them, we will monetize whatever's left. So they dart just left and those

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those credits comes back to help we'll keep our costs down you know for customers and help keep our rates down so the resolution that's before you tonight is because these these transactions have to happen on a

Those credits comes back to help, we'll keep our costs down, you know for customers and help keep our rates down. So the resolution that's before you tonight is because these, these transactions have to happen on a

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enter into sales and purchases renew our g credits this resolution would require us then after the completion of those to come back and report you know the results of those things so that is what is before you tonight happy to answer any questions tha

Enter into sales and purchases, renew our g credits. This resolution would require us then, after the completion of those, to come back and report. you know the results of those things. So that is what is before you tonight. Happy to answer any questions, tha.

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you dave so things are moving fast in this world and you want to be able to do it when you can yeah just as we do with any power transactions on the wholesale level or any fuel transactions really it's happen on a daily basis and it's in the price changes every day so it's not the kind of

You, Dave. So things are moving fast in this world and you want to be able to do it when you can. yeah, just as we do with any power transactions on the wholesale level or any fuel transactions. Really, it's happen on a daily basis and it's in the price changes every day, so it's not the kind of

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questions that were really brought up in maybe so i can address here one was the cold snap you know we had a fairly cold month here a little earlier in the the month and hopefully we're coming a little bit out of that but there was a question about price stability because

Questions that were really brought up in, maybe so i can address here. One was the cold snap. You know we had a fairly cold month here a little earlier in the the month and hopefully we're coming a little bit out of that. But there was a question about price stability because

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ctually had a little bit of excess at times as well and so we were able to bring value back to the community back to our rate payers by selling some excess when we did that we actually had a very attractive price

Ctually had a little bit of excess at times as well, and so we were able to bring value back to the community, back to our rate payers, by selling some excess. When we did that, we actually had a very attractive price.

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relative to the market that we sold and so those high cost days did not impact us here in holland the other question i think that was brought up earlier that i want to address too i think there was a question about you know the cold weather also bring some other things that visibly happen at

Relative to the market that we sold, and so those high cost days did not impact us here in Holland. The other question- i think that was brought up earlier- that i want to address too- i think there was a question about, you know, the cold weather also bring some other things that visibly happen at.

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minimizing doesn't mean that it never occurred throughout the summer and into the fall there were days where you couldn't tell if the plant was running or not it really was running just was no visible emissions coming even though maybe down the road where we know of

Minimizing doesn't mean that it never occurred. Throughout the summer and into the fall there were days where you couldn't tell if the plant was running or not. It really was running, just was no visible emissions coming, even though maybe down the road where we know Of.

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now that being said there are certain days whether it's a very foggy day or maybe it's extremely cold day words tough to eliminate it altogether but i will say even on those days it is minimize compared to what a

Now, that being said, there are certain days, whether it's a very foggy day or maybe it's extremely cold day, words tough to eliminate it altogether. But i will say, even on those days, it is minimize compared to what a.

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tower would have without plume abatement so those that are going by and wondering about that you know should know that is naturally occurring you know due to the water vapor in the process of cooling the water as it returns back to the plant to do its work

Tower would have without plume abatement. So those that are going by and wondering about that, you know, should know that is naturally occurring, you know, due to the water vapor in the process of cooling the water as it returns back to the plant to do its work.

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carbon dioxide in half and so you know when you look at that you know it's a much better much cleaner facility for our community and it's working very well for us great thank you for that explanation i'm sure people have been wondering so he appreciates that so tim we

Carbon dioxide in half and so you know, when you look at that, you know it's a much better, much cleaner facility for our community and it's working very well for us. Great, thank you for that explanation. i'm sure people have been wondering, so he appreciates that. so, Tim we.

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year is make amendments in the middle part of the year and then wilmet amended again maybe during the budget process and then at the end of the year the reason we like to get these amendments made now is because it

Year is make amendments in the middle part of the year and then wilmet amended again, maybe during the budget process and then at the end of the year. The reason we like to get these amendments made now is because it

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assists us as we start preparing our budget and we try to true up some of the costs that we now know when we prepare the budget back in march of two thousand and seventeen we certainly didn't know a lot of things including what were the health insurance rates going to

Assists us as we start preparing our budget and we try to true up some of the costs that we now know. When we prepare the budget back in March of two thousand and seventeen, we certainly didn't know a lot of things, including what were the health insurance rates going to.

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components to the change in this year's budget and i'm going to talk about both of briefly the first is the city received a much smaller amount of personal property tax reimbursement from the state of michigan this year

Components to the change in this year's budget and i'm going to talk about both of briefly. The first is the city received a much smaller amount of personal property tax reimbursement from the state of Michigan this year.

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given wasn't properly posted for the state when they made their calculation which the outcome of that is that the city receipt will receive about one point one million dollars less than what we had budgeted that's a pretty

Given wasn't properly posted for the state when they made their calculation, which the outcome of that is that the city receipt will receive about one point one million dollars less than what we had budgeted. That's a pretty.

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not exactly sure yet so that's the first change i spent some time earlier discussing with the council exactly how that calculation was done but the reality is is that this will impact the net bottom line of our general fund in the current year as we

Not exactly sure yet. So that's the first change. I spent some time earlier discussing with the council exactly how that calculation was done, but the reality is is that this will impact the net bottom line of our general fund in the current year, as we

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are amending it to have a negative amount of approximately three hundred thousand dollars we made some other adjustments to counteract this loss of six hundred sixteen thousand dollars but that's a pretty significant impact to the cit

Are amending it to have a negative amount of approximately three hundred thousand dollars. We made some other adjustments to counteract this loss of six hundred sixteen thousand dollars, but that's a pretty significant impact to the cit.

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general fund budget and to other budgets the second major budget impact is related to when pension bonds were sold this budget assume that we would have those sold prior to the beginning of the fiscal year which

General fund budget and to other budgets. The second major budget impact is related to when pension bonds were sold. This budget assume that we would have those sold prior to the beginning of the fiscal year, which

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began in july consequently we levied part of what we normally would put in our operating milage and we put that in the debt service milledge because we aren't selling bonds until january in fact we plan a price those

Began in July. Consequently, we levied part of what we normally would put in our operating milage and we put that in the debt service milledge because we aren't selling bonds until January. In fact, we plan a price. Those